Ok

Okay. Lots of exaggerations in the reviews posted here.....or a bunch of weird abnormal arm and torso length folks?

It's a service type jacket. So it's gonna be short in length. This is the style. The sleeves are longer than usual compared to the length of the jacket. Not dramatically so....but a tad.

I'm 5'10" 165lbs. Thinner but not mr. Salty. I got the large size. In pre washed condition....the sleeves hang with my arms down to the topside of the middle of my hands. Arms outstretched the sleeves pull back above my wrists. So not all that bad compared to every other large size jacket I've owned. The sleeves are baggy a bit but not dramatically so. I could fit a hoodie or fleece jacket underneath without being tight or weird.

The length is about 1.5 to 2 inches below my belt line. So it's short by design. ...but not abnormal.

It is lined but it is very thin and light. I wouldn't expect it to keep me warm in below 50 degree weather by itself.

The material is stiff...Also by design for this type of jacket. I expect it will soften up after awhile but not a couple of machine washings.

Fit and finish is not bad for the 30+ buck price range. Overall if I had trusted the bulk of the reviewers here...I wouldn't have bought it. Glad I was willing to risk my 30+ bucks. Way too many massive exaggerations and way too many who didn't understand the type of jacket that it is.

So if you like a service or work type shorter jacket and want one lighter but with some lining...This one is pretty darn good for the cost. I should mention look at the pics of the jacket on the guy. If you are normal shaped like him and like the way it looks on him and don't have abnormal gorilla arms lengths and freaky torso lengths etc.....you should be happy with it.